Religion ???

The religious sheeple will learnt hat they are not getting a ticket to that place in the sky they call heaven. No place exists, just as there is no invisible man in the sky that created life. We all EVOLVED.

The sheeple followers of religious charlatans are the people that need to be saved from all these crooks running all these church and religious businesses. They want your money, and they learned to sell you an invisible man in the sky and a nice heavenly place in exchange of your money for them to collect and live on.

As church and religion collects billions per year, the bigger the homeless and hungry problem in America grows as well.

Maybe if you want the people to believe that you are doing god's work, then why not start helping those in need of help instead of helping your greedy azzes with all the loot you swindle out of the ignorant sheeple that have fallen for your bs.

TAX all church and religions or shut them all down.

Well put, Arieus.

I felt like stating similar sentiments, but is it worth it?

The religious sheeple will bring about their own demise by claiming that their particular sect is superior.

Sheeple should keep their fairy tales to themselves and stop arguing over who's myth is better.

Thanks, Grandpa. It's so frustrating to hear people who obviously have never read the Bible to any degree ranting in public about being "Christian." You see how many people are now turned off by religion -- due in large measure to these folks. Christ condemns those who cause others to stumble. Let us continue to read the Holy Bible -- and for those who don't believe -- it's OK, you can read it too! You can hear it at a healthy, community church near you -- you don't have to be a "believer." I'm so glad that God has given us the Bible -- I hope each and every Christian will actually read it today -- and every day - and that others will also. You may be very surprised at what it actually says!

This reminds me of the time I was watching Jay Leno do one of those segments where he asked people on the street very simple questions, just to see what kind of outrageous answers they came up with.

He asked a young woman who was the founder of Christianity. I think she said something weird like, "Ghandi", and when Jay said, "No, it was Jesus CHrist", she said, "Oh, I should have known that, I'm a Christian!"

I think a lot of people wear the label because they're taught that they should, but they never bother finding out what it really means.

Sad, but true, Silvaria.

Jay Leno was wrong. Jesus was a Jew. The real founder of the Christian religions was Paul, not Jesus.

Paul is obviously not the center of the faith but without him there would be no such faith. There is no real evidence that Jesus was trying to start a new religion during his lifetime on earth.

OomYaaqub--

This is one of those mimes that non-Christians believe we have not heard (Paul began the religion of Christianity)-- therefore we Christians don't understand the historic record. Just FYI -- I am elderly, and first heard it when I was less than 20 years old -- so it is an old chestnut, indeed.

You assert that Jesus was not trying to start a new religion -- true! He was trying to establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth -- "Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven." The single word Christ uses the most often is Kingdom -- this was his mission, and he did mean to include you and me in this meaningful work. His Kingdom is elaborated on by Paul, who endeavored to bring all the Good News of Jesus and his resurrection and the power of the Holy Spirit it unleashed on earth to everyone-- a power to bring the Kingdom to earth through humility, compassion, and the other attributes Christ enumerated in his Sermon on the Mount. Peace.

You believe as you will and I'll believe as I will. You'll be where you are and I'll be where I am.

We won't be together. You can complain all you like about the church and taxes, it really doesn't matter to me. See hatred is what the devil is all about, he loves to stir the pot.

Exposing the truth about religion and charlatanism has nothing to do with a devil. I believe in no god or devil alike. It's all bs imo. The truth is the truth Gramps. Church and religion is selling bs to the people to generate big-bucks off the backs of the sheeple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeSSwKffj9o <<< George Carlin - Religion is BS.

feliiz:

Well spoken.

Arieus:

Sadly there is -some- truth to what you say. There most certainly are charlatans out there posing as holy men of God for the sole purpose of greed. They certainly give the ones who aren't a big black eye because people (perhaps even you?) assume guilt of all by the actions of the few or guilt by association.

That broad brush stroke of total condemnation is wrongly used against persons from all kinds of groups including religions, atheists, political parties, race, etc. I prefer to take people on a case-by-case individual basis recognizing there will be both good and bad apples in every orchard.

How many recognize the RCC in this passage ?? They forbid their priests to marry-yet at one time didn't- they had for years the forbidding of eating meat on Fridays- but now say it is okay- they claim the priests are necessary for people to confess their sin to in order to be forgiven-yet some of those same priests molest the children they are trusted to bring the love of Christ to-. The Catholic church was a good church at one time.

They have fallen into the apostasy that was warned about. They now preach the doctrines of demons being deceived by the lies of power, wealth, and control here on earth. I pray that the people would come out of the darkness of their lies and see the light of Jesus Christ.

Cowboygrandpa:

Did I misread your criticism of another Christian faith? You are passing YOUR judgement against the RCC. Your theological expertise is lacking.

Which sect did I say was superior ?? I'm not religious either.

Who are you kidding?

Hmmm ?? The freedom of religion bothers you ?? Or maybe the freedom of speech ??

Not at all. I think religion is a very important to millions of people. I have no issues with religious people as long as they don't become overly judgmental or try to impose religious values that are harmful. To claim that Catholics have fallen into the apostasy is judgmental. To claim that the RCC was good at one time is JUDGMENTAL! You don't see it that way because your views (sect or whatever you want to call it) run contrary to the RCC. Do you think you have it all right, enough so to pass your judgement upon 1 billion followers?

So your beliefs and speech should be all that is allowed to posted and talked about huh ??

Absolutely, NOT

I have my beliefs or lack thereof. I came freely to them, without coercion or indoctrination. I don't like sharing them much, unless asked. Nor do I write articles claiming that other atheists have it all wrong and I have it all right.

Freedom as long as it is for you and your beliefs and screw everyone else huh ??

Absolutely, NOT!

Are you one of the ones who say the religious fanatics shouldn't be allowed to speak or discuss their ideas because you don't agree with them ?? If so whaty does that make you except the exact opposite of the coin ??

No, again. Most of my friends are religious...some devout. I love them dearly. They don't proselytize, like you. Nor do they pass judgement, like you.

Perhaps you might buy a bullhorn and stand on a street corner to preach your "absolute" version of Christianity.

Your comments are offensive to free thinkers, but hey this is a country that prides itself in free speech. Sad that it is often abused.

JM:

Again, thank you.

Why aren't you on my friend's list? I'm sure we won't agree on everything but I think the type of mutual respect you seem to advocate is a great building block. FR sent. If not accepted, no harm no foul and I look forward to bumping into you elsewhere on the vine.

Gladly accepted, Rachel.

Gramps, these will be my last comments because you are being extremely offensive and have no clue why.

What is sad is that you not being a Christian and therfore not knowing Jesus Christ would even consider to try and tell one who does know and follw Jesus Christ how to preach !! Get down off of your own soapbox. You don't even know Jesus Christ yet you would try to tell me how to teach and reach people people for Him ??

I am a Christian and wear that moniker proudly. I don't dispose of the Christian values that many wonderful, selfless Christians taught me. I am not convinced that Jesus was the Son of God. Regardless, Jesus's messages remains strongly entrenched within me.

You will know me by the fruit that I bear. Not by my condemnation of others, like you do as your raison d'etre.

Satan is alive and trying to keep the message from being told. Satan doesn't care if people go to church and believe falsely. In fact he encourages it, because it keeps them with him.

Santa Claus is alive and well. How can you fear something that never existed?

Your comments would keep people in demonic worship and keep them from questioning the reasons so many churches today do not teach the Word of God.

Your comments keep people in mental wards.

I'm not saying to follow me. I'm saying read The Holy Bible and learn His word.

Then why the proselytizing and doomsday talk. You need to get over yourself. I've read the Bible and don't need to do it again for the umpteenth time.

I don't doubt His word, but I certainly doubt yours.

Go in Peace. Stop playing judge, jury and executioner.

One cannot be a Christian if one does not believe in Christ being the Son of God.

Says who?

How about me saying one cannot be a Christian if one doesn't believe in transubstantiation?

Gramps, I'm sure you are a good person, I simply don't agree with most of what you're saying.

Let's leave this debate. It's not going to be fruitful.

I'm not saying to follow me. I'm saying read The Holy Bible and learn His word.

It was written by man, no the invisible God in the sky you pray to and get no answers from.

Once when I was living in CA., I was looking for an apartment. I looked for about two weeks and found one. Then a friend of mine that is a religious freak said "thank god, without god you would still be looking". BS! I looked daily until I found one suitable for me, no god helped me in any way, shape, or form. I bought the LA Times daily and looked and found it all on my own.

Religious people really need to get a grip with reality. You can pray all you want about the starving and the homeless people in the world, but until the lazy-azz religious folks get off their azzes and actually do something to help them, no help is going to ever come to these people. People help people, and if you actually think that the invisible man in the sky is going to help anyone, don't hold your breath. Seek medical help and run to the doctor for when you become ill, because prayers don't cure illnesses, modern meds, doctors and science help people and save lives.

You assert that Jesus was not trying to start a new religion -- true! He was trying to establish the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth -- "Thy will be done on earth as it is in Heaven."

Okay, I'm on board with that. Where do we start?

Religion is one of the biggest scams ever foisted on humanity.